The Hobbit Smaug Died Way to Easy
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I always kind of thought Bilbo was supposed to kill Smaug, and I'm a little disappointed that it was some random guy. (I know Bard's not just some random guy, but seriously.)
Anyone else? I would love to hear your thoughts, both if you agree and if you don't.
I secound that! I was expecting so much more. Instead of "The Hobbit" we got "Some Random Tale In Middle Earth".
Frankly it would be unrealistic for Bilbo to kill Smaug, despite his bravery and natural stealth he is no warrior.
Action scenes were not Tolkien's strong suit.
Also, I found the movies perfectly fine. They are a separate piece of art to be judged, well, as a separate piece of art.
I always kind of thought Bilbo was supposed to kill Smaug, and I'm a little disappointed that it was some random guy. (I know Bard's not just some random guy, but seriously.)
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I liked how the book doesn't go with your expectations. Admit it if you really read that Bilbo fights Smaug and saves the day would you have enjoyed it or would you have found it less so because it was predictable? That was one thing I loved so much about this book. It never headed the direction you were expecting it to go.
Frankly it would be unrealistic for Bilbo to kill Smaug, de..."
says the untrained man. natural stealth would have allowed him to come near to him and stab him with a spear and run away.
This is a book forum, mainly, so obviously many of the topics deal with the book, rather than the film...
It's only fitting that Bard killed Smaug, he lived in the village that was being terrorized by the dragon, so why not...
Tolkien is great in not doing what you expect as reader.
Did you _read_ the thread?
I didn't think about it much, but it wasn't what I expected, so yes I was disappointed. I was kinda happy that Bilbo didn't have to face Smaug, though.
As there is but one of the movies out to date you can not have been disappointed by the movies. You may certainly have an expectation of being disappointed, but then I expect you will find exactly what you are looking for . . . troll.
I always kind of thought Bilbo was supposed to kill Smaug, and I'm a little disappointed that it was some random guy. (I know Bard's not just some random guy, but seriously.)
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Bilbo was hired to be the thief, not the Dragon Slayer. It was actually fairly clear to me throughout the book that the Dwarves would have to figure that one out themselves. :-)
I secound that! I was expecting so much more. Instead of "The Hobbit" we got "Some Random Tale In Middle Earth"."
I am confused by your statement. What you got WAS, and is, the Hobbit.
Yep. Bilbo, who was hired to be the "thief", and to whom at was at one point was told he should try to find a way to defeat Smaug (note, not kill Smaug) does exactly that. :-)
That is because Smaug was not intended to be the stories climax, but rather a foil to get us to the end of the story. The Battle of Five Armies was the great climax . . .
I totally agree with you
i agree
I was expecting Bilbo to come up with a plan, as he is the brains of the operation at that point, in combination with the strength of the thirteen dwarves.
In fact, the entire book was pretty much a disappointment to me and I hope the LOTR series is better. The LOTR movies are some of my favorites of all time, but the Hobbit movie, I thought was terrible. So hopefully the books follow that theme for me.
and I don´t think that the death of smaug should expand allot of pages. since it is the journey that counts and not the goal just like in lord of the rings where the journey to the mountaint of doom was the point and not the tossing of the ring. so I was rather pleased with the whole ending
Then comes the second stage, and I looked back on the story in its entirety. It was then that I was able to appreciate what Tolkien had done. Bilbo was a hero according to his abilities and inclinations, making an important contribution to the defeat of Smaug, but it wasn't in his nature to do the deed. Instead, Tolkien elevated a man of worth to a heroic level to do a deed that was within his nature and scope. It actually turned out well because the people of the town needed a hero to follow in the rebuilding of their town and the Bardings were born.
It was also during this later reflection that I saw how Bilbo's "Unexpected Journey" was unexpected at every step of the journey, going against the reader's expectations of how the classical hero always does the impossible and receives the laurels in the end. Bilbo went home unheralded and unappreciated among his kind, but that didn't make him any less of the kind of hero it was within him to be.
Still, at that moment when Tolkien upended my expectations with the death of Smaug, a small amount of disappointment was in the mix of emotions. But it was also part of what made the story great rather than good and why we still talk about it 75 years later.
I had a similar feeling when reading Jules Verne's Journey to the Center of the Earth. Supposed to be an epic classic and it just fell short.
Maybe if I was 13 and reading these books back in the 30s I would have felt differently, but in today's age, I want more.
HAHAHA I know exactly what you mean HAHAHA. And I am SURE that Jackson will find an exciting way to kil Smaug!
And another thing. Smaug was, in a sense, dead already, living only for his gold and having no soul to appreciate anyone but himself.
Also, the arrow that killed him was destined for him. This idea of dragging out death and making it bloodier and messier is sick in my view. The death of Thorin was beautifully rendered and added to the story.
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